The ‘analytic’ and the ‘relational’ are often positioned as two distinct paradigms. The ‘analytic’ emphasising detachment and objectivity, and the ‘relational’ emphasising involvement and the intersubjectivity. Broadly, the analytic streams prevail within Europe and the relational streams in the USA. S.H.Foulkes’ dual notions of group analyst and group conductor speak to each of these. This raises questions about whether the distinction is one of ‘kind’ or of ‘degree’. Content: The lecture details the key principles of each of these paradigms and some of the controversies surrounding them. I will say something about my evolving practice and why I come to be preoccupied by this distinction. I suggest that there is a widening gap between the way that psychotherapy is practiced in private and the way it is spoken of in public.